We Fight So You Don’t Have To

Hosted ByLiz Fenton and Lisa Steinke

BFFs and co-authors Liz Fenton & Lisa Steinke share lessons from their thirty-year friendship. Basically, they fight so you don’t have to.


All Episodes

Episode 19 | The Couples Vacay

We travel together—a lot. When we aren’t jumping cities on book tours, we drag our husbands and family along on our book research adventures. And we’ve had some epic fights along the way. Listen in to find out why one battle caused Mike Fenton to jump into the raging...

Episode 18 | Dating: The Adult Friendship Addition

Why is it so damn hard for adult women to make new friends? When geography separated us for a decade, we both dated our asses off struggling to find her. Listen to discover if we each found “the (other) one.” We love to hear from you! Email us at...

Episode 17 | Liz V. Lisa: Who binged it better?

Baking banana bread feels so last year in the best of ways. Liz and Lisa look back on quarantine and a find few similarities–including Home Editing every closet and drawer in their houses. But Binge watching and reading? They mostly disagree. Listen and find out why. We love to...

Episode 16: Failing the Friendship Quiz

Liz and Lisa take a friendship quiz and their conversation shifts to an unexpected topic that has Lisa considering getting a therapist. We love to hear from you! Email us at liz@lizandlisa.com.

Episode 15: The Journals of Mr. Ex

The journals make another appearance! Why did Lisa dedicate FOUR notebooks to one man? And why did Liz have a crush on him? Listen to find out. We love to hear from you! Email us at liz@lizandlisa.com.

Episode 14: Sex and the City and Us

Liz and Lisa discuss the iconic TV show and why Lisa religiously attended Sunday night viewing parties while donning her tutu and Liz didn’t watch at all—until later

Episode 13: The Dead Dad’s Club

Liz and Lisa belong to this member’s only club that no one wants to join. Liz lost her father first and four years later, Lisa’s passed away. They share their secret to getting through the painful loss of a dad: humor. Have a question, comment or idea? Email liz@lizandlisa.com...

Episode 12: Dear Diary: The College Years

Liz and Lisa have so many diaries between them that one podcast episode quickly turned into two. Now they are on their own for the first time at college, and confiding in their diaries rather than one another. Listen as they read from the same dates twenty-five years ago...

Episode 11: Dear Diary: The High School Years

Liz and Lisa peel back the pages—and layers—of the emotional teenage angst they wrote about in their high school diaries. Listen in as they share and dissect their innermost secrets and turmoil that includes poems and drawings! Have a question, comment or idea? Email liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in...