We Fight So You Don’t Have To

Hosted ByLiz Fenton and Lisa Steinke

BFFs and co-authors Liz Fenton & Lisa Steinke share lessons from their thirty-year friendship. Basically, they fight so you don’t have to.

All Episodes

Episode 16: Failing the Friendship Quiz

Liz and Lisa take a friendship quiz and their conversation shifts to an unexpected topic that has Lisa considering getting a therapist. We love to hear from you! Email us at liz@lizandlisa.com.

Episode 15: The Journals of Mr. Ex

The journals make another appearance! Why did Lisa dedicate FOUR notebooks to one man? And why did Liz have a crush on him? Listen to find out. We love to hear from you! Email us at liz@lizandlisa.com.

Episode 14: Sex and the City and Us

Liz and Lisa discuss the iconic TV show and why Lisa religiously attended Sunday night viewing parties while donning her tutu and Liz didn’t watch at all—until later

Episode 13: The Dead Dad’s Club

Liz and Lisa belong to this member’s only club that no one wants to join. Liz lost her father first and four years later, Lisa’s passed away. They share their secret to getting through the painful loss of a dad: humor. Have a question, comment or idea? Email liz@lizandlisa.com...

Episode 12: Dear Diary: The College Years

Liz and Lisa have so many diaries between them that one podcast episode quickly turned into two. Now they are on their own for the first time at college, and confiding in their diaries rather than one another. Listen as they read from the same dates twenty-five years ago...

Episode 11: Dear Diary: The High School Years

Liz and Lisa peel back the pages—and layers—of the emotional teenage angst they wrote about in their high school diaries. Listen in as they share and dissect their innermost secrets and turmoil that includes poems and drawings! Have a question, comment or idea? Email liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in...

Episode 10: The Curse of Chichen Itza

The Yucatan Peninsula is the perfect vacation spot with its white sand beaches, crystal-clear ocean water and delicious local food. And for Liz and Lisa, it was also the ideal setting for their fifth novel, Girls’ Night Out. Or so they thought! After they visited Chichen Itza, ancient Maya...

Episode 9: Moving Away

After two decades of friendship, Lisa moved two thousand miles away from San Diego to Chicago to get married. Liz and Lisa continued writing books together and actually saw each other more often than they did when they were living in the same city. You’ll learn why it wasn’t...

Episode 8: Blackjack Confessions

A lot has gone down over the years for Liz and Lisa at the blackjack table—and they’re not just talking about gambling! Find out what happened when they let their guards–and cards–down in Sin City. Have something to say? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put...