We Fight So You Don’t Have To

Hosted ByLiz Fenton and Lisa Steinke

BFFs and co-authors Liz Fenton & Lisa Steinke share lessons from their thirty-year friendship. Basically, they fight so you don’t have to.


All Episodes

Episode 10: The Curse of Chichen Itza

The Yucatan Peninsula is the perfect vacation spot with its white sand beaches, crystal-clear ocean water and delicious local food. And for Liz and Lisa, it was also the ideal setting for their fifth novel, Girls’ Night Out. Or so they thought! After they visited Chichen Itza, ancient Maya...

Episode 9: Moving Away

After two decades of friendship, Lisa moved two thousand miles away from San Diego to Chicago to get married. Liz and Lisa continued writing books together and actually saw each other more often than they did when they were living in the same city. You’ll learn why it wasn’t...

Episode 8: Blackjack Confessions

A lot has gone down over the years for Liz and Lisa at the blackjack table—and they’re not just talking about gambling! Find out what happened when they let their guards–and cards–down in Sin City. Have something to say? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put...

Episode 7: Looking Good on Paper

Liz and Lisa look back at Lisa’s serial monogamy dating highlight reel. Find out why Lisa was a magnet for men who were perfect on paper but lacked the commitment gene. And hear about Liz’s amazing ability to play therapist and talk her off the ledge every time she...

Episode 6: The Interestings

The year was 2013 and Liz and Lisa finally had an agent and a traditional publishing deal with Simon & Schuster. They traveled to New York City to meet their agent and editor for the first time. They even got a second book deal in the process. You’d think...

Episode 5: I’ll Have Who She’s Having

In 2005, Liz and Lisa’s first manuscript, I’ll Have Who She’s Having, was rejected by every agent in the publishing industry. After a year of trying to get published—while one of them was pregnant and the other was a total emotional mess—they did what absolutely no smart aspiring authors...

Episode 4: Liz and Lisa on Lockdown

When they were told to shelter in place, Liz and Lisa leaned in hard. Quarantine would be their bitch. But, when that initial fervor to be productive wore off, they had to face reality: Their teens were disgruntled. Their favorite gym was closed indefinitely. Their homeschooling skills were crap....

Episode 3: The Tricycle

Long before Lisa got married, she spent a majority of her time as the third wheel to Liz and her husband. They dubbed themselves: The Tricycle. They rode to many events together, even Liz and Lisa’s ten-year high school reunion! Most recently, the three of them dusted off the...

Episode 2: The Scarlet Letter

Liz and Lisa had a fight before high school graduation that could have ended their friendship. In a nutshell: Liz did something Lisa didn’t agree with. So Lisa took it upon herself to inform the person who was affected by Liz’s choice. The result? A complete and total sh*t...